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? >> guest: i started after hurricane katrina. host mark what caused you to do this? >> guest: it was one of those times in my life when i didn't know what i was doing, and that this opportunity came up and i thought was perfect because i had no skills whatsoever. i did whatever they ask for in skilled people come in, they clean up than they do the serious work. so we did very basic labor. but it was necessary later. >> host: did you feel that your two weeks in new orleans was worthy? >> guest: guesstimate everywhere that i went from a question that. i said, what can you really do in two weeks? beyond the fact that yes, it is helpful to paint a house, but there was an intangible quality that it was good to be in new orleans nine months after hurricane katrina. people were so happy to have tourists back in people in the city. >> host: ken budd, what were you doing for a living prior to volunteering? >> guest: i was an editor and i was an editor in washington dc and i am still doing the same job. >> host: how did you get all that time off? could use your vacation time. >> guest: yes, i use
in a way that makes networks run well. i think if you look back at hurricane katrina and the recommendations, those recommendations were before the flexible framework. that is what we were pushing. we did not disagree with the goal to keep the networks running. of course we do. it is in the industry's best interest. it's how you go about doing this. for us, when you look at a storm of this magnitude, it is having the ability to react. carriers that had put in thousands of feet of power cable to drag cable up to the rooftop. so that we can have these sites work. >> host: what have carriers on to be more reliable in emergencies? >> guest: we put towers and unchurched peoples and on the side of buildings in major metropolitan areas and, you know, in closets within buildings. and it becomes difficult and areas to help that backup power. yes, they try to put in batteries were they can't put in generators. they put it in with as much fuel as they are allowed. but when you are working with building codes and zoning restrictions or environmental laws and imitations, you know,
. so huge. and to compare it to katrina, katrina lost more lives. we lost too many lives, but not close to katrina. but in other ways it's much more devastating than katrina. right now in new york 305,000 homes are seriously damaged or gone. kirsten showed the pictures of some of them that are just gone by fire because the water systems failed, and the wind -- then the electrical systems got shorted; fire, wind. and the, so 305,000 homes seriously damaged or gone. just in new york up to now, there are going to be more that we'll learn about because the flooding is still there in lots of the basements. these are low-lying houses. there were 214,000 total homes gone in katrina of the same level of damage. businesses, 265,000 -- this is just new york. bob will talk about, and frank talked about new jersey which has similar levels of damage. in katrina 18,000 businesses. because of the density of the population, it is a much greater economic impact on our region, of course, and on the nation. than otherwise. so despite all this pain we can't entirely fault those who came before us for build
well. i think if you look back at the hurricane katrina recommendations before the fcc acted, those recommendations were for a voluntary, flexible framework. and so that's what we were pushing. we don't disagree with the goal of the fcc to keep the networks running, of course we don't. that's in every carrier's best interests, it's in the industry's best interests. it's just how do you go about doing this. and so for us when you look at a storm of this magnitude, it's having the ability to react, to move assets around. we had carriers that had to put in, you know, thousands of feet of power cables to drag, you know, cables up to the rooftop to power generators so that we could have cell sites working. >> host: well, let's go back to katrina in '05. what kind of investment have wireless companies done to improve their reliability during such emergencies? >> guest: sure. so you see carriers in every instance where it's possible putting in back-up power, and you can imagine instances where it's not. we put towers in on church steeples, we put them on the side of buildings in mayor metr
oceanic and not mr. association, the costliest storms to hit katrina by one at funk shot. take, about 30 billion. andrew in 90 to about 36.5 billion. wilma in 2005, i've been 18 billion, charlie indo for 15 billion, reader, frances and jeanne all and hurricane damage. in your view, does the national flood insurance program currently structured work? >> i think it does work. it does help protect consumers from an uninsurable event in the private arcade. the program was created in 1968 was the result created because the private market could not accurately and in suitably underrate the insurance risk. so what was happening was people were completely without flood insurance protection. so is happening in the 60s and 50s as american citizens were being flooded and the only recourse that she had was federal disaster assistance after the fact. so the program was created to have people pay into a program and be prepared for storm and a flood event before it happened. now, it certainly could use improvement. you know, there are critics out there whose fate is is too subsidized by the federal gove
in 2005 with hurricane katrina and some other hurricanes and natural disasters? >> guest: it is too early to make that assessment. things are being ramped up in a number of ways. we are going to have vulnerabilities. when you have the infrastructure, they are going to be horrible to natural disasters, of course. but i think all in all, in terms of the response, what i am sensing is that people see that deployments have been done and a lot of systems work as best as they can under the circumstances. i think we will see some improvement in terms of the results at the end of the day. >> host: also joining us today is paul kirby who is the senior communications editor. >> guest: the oral arguments between the judges on the panel seemed skeptical of the rules. you think we should pressure those rules in light of hurricane sandy? >> guest: i think these really reinforced by some of the things that we put forth -- why we do what we do and why we affirm some of those things. yes, backup power systems definitely, you know, they are in play here. if this affirms how codependent we are, even some pe
. >> guest: i know what he is referring to which katrina with uncertainty about what caused the structural damage. with katrina you have a lot of houses and structures wiped out the only thing left was a slab of concrete. it was very difficult to determine if the damage was caused by the wind or swept away by the storm surge or the flood. there was a lot of controversy wind versus water. that is important if it is caused by water then the nfip picks up the tab if it is wind than it is private insurance. this storm i don't anticipate being that much controversy surrounding the issue because based on the footage of his team there has not been widespread slab total loss properties that katrina had. in the storm i think there will be a better opportunity for the adjusters to use the scientific process look at the storm comment damage, water wobbles they can determine whether it was caused by water or wind. that is my hope. >> host: mr. prible with municipal damage in new york subway system are they ensured through a private broker? >> guest: new york city from what i read your understand they
disaster we suffered, let's look back to even 2005 with katrina and some other hurricanes and natural disasters. >> guest: i think you will see it's too early to make that assessment because even now things are being ramped up, i think you would say. it's never satisfactory for those out of service. but in terms -- we're going to have vulnerabilities, you know? when you have towers, when you have, you know, the infrastructure, there are going to be -- they're going to be vulnerable to natural disasters, of course. but i think all in all in terms of the response, what i'm hearing, on what i'm sensing is people see that, um, deployments have been made as soon as it was safe to do so and that a lot of the systems worked as best as they could under these circumstances. so i think all in all you will see some improvement in terms of the results at the end of the day. >> host: also joining our conversation on "the communicators" is paul kirby who is the senior editor with "telecommunications reports." >> one of the issues is back-up power. >> guest: yes. >> a few years ago the fcc adopted r
in this country occurred when we have the debt ceiling drama. not 9/11, i think katrina was the biggest, but the second biggest in the last four years was that event in terms of consumer confidence dropping. government, i think government right now, frankly, has been part of the problem, not part of the solution. it needs to provide, and, you know, almost regardless of what it does, it needs to provide some certainty and predictable to businesses and consumers so that they will function better and we will have a more productive economy. >> okay. so, heidi, steve has provided a very nice lead-in to bringing you into the conversation, and he said, you know, look, the u.s., the strength of the u.s. domestic economy, sorting out the fiscal situation is important not just for the u.s. and the world economy, but for the u.s. and the world full stop. >> right. >> you work at the state d., -- department, but you're the chief economist. what do you do? >> now they're laughing at her. [laughter] >> well, the role of the chief economist largely came out of a -- >> louder. >> your mic's not transmi
and in some respects, it was a natural process after hurricane katrina where they could start over again. the other places homeland where i think there is more choice. if you look at the results, it is amazing. but about a third of the kids in harlem are in this district. they went up dramatically when they started this process there. it was something like 28 out of 30, now it is about 16. not only did the charter school is almost outperformed everybody, but the public schools, which were 28, actually moved up significantly themselves. so i think those are two substantiation of models that could be developed. so in terms of difference of reforming and relinquishing, i think it is very important as an idea that needs development. that is where i would come down. >> i would have to agree that it is choice. for two reasons. there is a catalytic effect, if you will. going against an attrition or a system, if the college isn't getting applicants, he will either go out of business or there is a catalytic effect on the underperformers of having people be able to make choices with their kids, an
daniel christman used katrina as an example of how extreme weather can cause negative operational impacts to our military. in response to katrina the national guard mobilized 58,000 national guard members to the relief effort at the same time that 79,000 guard members were deployed fighting the war on terrorism. the generals pointed out that although louisiana's physical infrastructure did not hold, our national guard did hold. but the limits of even our exceptional national guard will be tested by these changes in extreme weather. and it is imperative that we prepare our emergency management and responders for a new normal of new extremes. climate change will also create new strategic challenges. climate events such as droughts and heat waves, floods and storms exacerbate political and military tensions in areas around the world with fragile governments and instability. this can result in violent conflict and in refugee problems. it is not just the shock of extreme weather that portends danger. as the temperature of the air and ocean steadily rises the amount of moisture in the atmospher
. but as you know at least in past storms like katrina and others, many of the people who were required to have flood insurance still didn't have it, and how we're going to deal with that issue is one of the issues we have to face. and second, will the flood insurance be adequate for the people who were there? now, those who paid flood insurance have a legal, binding commitment from the government to pay it, and that's going to happen. we're going to have to come up with the dollars for that. we don't know the numbers yet. we just don't know the numbers. some people estimate that over 100,000 homes are unlivable. 100,000 homes. that's probably 300,000 people, the the size of a major american city. but we just don't know yet because of the inspections going on. we know huge numbers of houses are water logged. are their electrical systems gone, has there been structural damage, that takes almost a house-by-house inspection to determine, and we don't know enough yet. but flood insurance will have to live up to its promises and its commitments. that's legally binding on the government. how it has t
katrina where they could start over again. and while there's a lot of room for improvement of great things are happening. the other places harlem where i think there's now more choice in that little neighborhood. and if you look at the results, it's amazing. about a third of the kids in harlem in the third grade are in charter schools. but what's amazing is the harlem district went up, an and this is apples to apples, went up dramatically from when we started this intensive choice process there. now, it was something like 28 out of 32 district. now it's about 16th. and not only did the charter schools outperform almost everybody, but the public schools which were 28th actually moved up significantly themselves. so i think those are two situations of models that we should develop your i think what, down in new orleans between the reform and relinquishing, and portfolio i think are really important ideas that need developing. so that's were i would comment. >> i would agree that choice, and for two reasons. the catalytic effect on the system if you will, because going to get from a tertiary
there in those kind of disasters. katrina, there were big mistakes made dana katrina. there's tremendous amount of money that was wasted dana. there wasn't a plan to spend it. they came to us first with a request for 10.5 kilometer's, and i supported that. that lasted a week ago back in front of us with a request for 51.8 billion more dollars, 50 billion for dean the complex check. 1.8 billion for the corps of engineers. i asked for the plan, and finally, finally i went with down to that unless i valid as your spreadsheet and want to see the support documents for the spreadsheet if it's the spreadsheet i wan the spreadshei want to see the adding machine tape and if it's not that i want to see the dartboard vegemite from the dart at. at you i think they did throw a dart, figuratively speaking and ended up on 50 billion. and we know what have i been at the next it was by 32 a.m. when i got e-mail from josh bolten promised me that day he would give me the plan i have the got the 51.8 billion. in that was included to hundred, 300,000 trade houses in the original plan of 270,000 of which were backor
for both, what happened in maryland is very significant and mentioned here. that's a little bit of katrina's and the fact that now if he were your last few years, that these guys, these students can go to college in maryland and universities paying in-state tuition like if you're an american, that's a very, very good signal. i see it as a flagship tour was here to come. those immigrants are not asking. we know most of them are not bad people. asking for days. they're asking for an opportunity. and i think it's a very, very good decision because it's a great message and i think from their, that's going to be the flagship program and message. i know those governments, both parties in congress are going to take off from there. >> thank you very much. i'm very glad you mentioned that. jeff, thank you. >> thank you paycheck shop at the peterson institute for international economics. first i should direct your mission there, michael. she's a welcomed welcomes the ambassador as our latest and very important trading partner of the united states as a result of the entry into force of our bilateral
to be connected, and ten years ago or five years ago in the wake of katrina, it was possible to say, well, look, you know, the networks are young. these guys are investing. they got the right incentives to make it reliable, and for the industry to say, no regulation, no standards or enforcement, you know, we're past that. there's a point in which you have to bite the bullet and say, look, guys, we're all about, doing a great job or not a great job, but too many people are dependent on you to let this just be private sector decision making. we at least have to know how reliable networks are, we have to plan, and, frankly, in an emergency, it is really everyone's benefit to have some of the rules in place. i know that everybody focuses on cost, and that's right. you know, this is one of the criticism that the blog post came from a friend of mine from cato saying, yeah, everyone wants cheap phones until there's an emergency, and then where's the backup power? that costs money. there's a decision you make about the tradeoffs. there's good things about the current-private structure, multiple network
in the new orleans after katrina, when we lost technology, we lost order. we lost law and order. technology is a huge benefit but a huge risk. there are so many people who want to say that kids just can't learn. some kids just can't learn. so i would say do we really believe kids can't learn? aren't there really opportunities for kids and isn't our security at stake in a lot of other ways other than on the battle field? but in the secret in the intellectual property of the united states and the people who work for us? and when are we going connect these dots? when are we going break the system down? when are we going blow up the system and the mentality? and i'm just excited because governor bush brings us together once a year to reflect on this and we goat hear people like you help us understand. so please, help me understand how do we connect the dots? how do we make this real and how do we bring it to the urgency of? >> [inaudible] you're a man who did precisely that. i don't know people in the room know what paul did in louisiana, but you would not have had the recovery school district.
to domestic needs. as we saw in the disasters of katrina and sandy, our infrastructure needs alone are enormous. whether as a result of horrendous storms or not. to cite just a few, the cost of repairing and replacing our water system -- dams, levees, bridges, roads and highways -- are estimated at $100 billion just to get them in order and not to build new highway systems. our aging water systems which annually discharge billions of gallons of untreated wastewater into u.s. surface waters would cost $390 billion to replace over a 20-year period. construction of seawalls which has now become a common source of discussion in the new york harbor would cost about $20 billion. many more aspects of the military sequester will be discussed by our panel, and we will begin with carl kinetta, co-director of the project on defense alternatives. >> thank you, richard. richard said that some of us are looking at the current situation as a golden opportunity. i think it might be a way that we can parse the country politically. the question where exactly does that opportunity sit, we might be lo
-tb, sars, hurricane katrina, the indian ocean tsunami, and the anthrax letter attacks on capitol hill. >> she's a real party girl. [laughter] >> maryn graduate from georgetown university and has a master's degree from northwestern university those of our panelists. so, let me start with a very, sort of a historic question, their agenda. the late 1960s we were hearing that infectious diseases were over, that we have solved that problem, we had all these wonderful antibiotics and it was thought that i was going to be enough, along with others isolate antiviral drugs to some extent, and it was thought by some chemical in some very it could people who should've known better you would think that we had closed the book on the infectious diseases. but that clearly was very wrong. so why was it wrong? what has changed so much? what led to that mistake in prediction? >> i guess i am looking at you first, tremont. >> i think wasn't just antibiotics although that's a we always talk about. in the 1960s there was this extremely heady notion that science could solve everything. right? so we're goin
to be connected. and ten years ago or even in the wake of katrina about five years ago when those first reports came out, it was possible to say, well, look, you know, these networks are young, these guys are investing, they've got all the right incentives to make this reliable, and for the industry to say no regulation, no -- even no standards, nothing enforceable, you know, we're past that. les a point -- there's a point at which you've just got to bite the bullet and say, look, guys, we're all about you're doing a great job or not so great a job, but too many people are dependent on you to just let this be private sector decision making. we at least need to have to know how reliable these networks are, we've got to know how to plan and, frankly, in an emergency it is everyone's benefit to have some of these rules in place. i know that everybody focuses on costs, and that's right. one of the criticisms of my blog post came from a friend of mine at cato who said, well, yeah, everybody wants cheap phones until an more than hits -- emergency hits. but it's a decision we have to make about the tr
think it will only be second to katrina. there will be tens of billions of dollars. we are doing a continual resolution until april 1. whether or not that will be enough remains to be seen. every time there's a disaster on the west coast, an earthquake, a flood and the mississippi, a tornado, we pull together as congress, republicans and democrats and do what has to be done. i do not expect new jersey will be treated any differently. i know my colleagues in surrounding states, especially in new york and new england states were very hard hit. i have been in contact with republicans and democrats. i think we are going to join together and do what is necessary. we do not know what those numbers are. i think it is premature to speculate too much. we are like the center for strategic and international studies for a look at global health, the military and national security. this discussion just getting underway. >> -- global health, and i think i came to experience it when i was in the department, and it's something that every four-star general and flag officer in the department can at
prevalent during katrina. a lot of people wanted to just go and they knew enough to know that just showing up wouldn't work. so they were trying to not bother the operations and they were coming to the pentagon to say how can we help in what and what can we do? i think that scenario replays itself at various levels all over the world, and so again, i am torn by the need to keep the government out of a local cooperative effort so that the benefits of capitalism can come up with a solution that is efficient, low-cost and philanthropic way supported. you have people confuse with a very limited amount of technology and infrastructure requirements like the use of cell phones and how do you communicate during these kinds of disasters at the local level to say what your requirements are? how would you leverage those technologies to inform and independent group who is dedicated to supporting those kinds of things? that could be the csis and any non-governmental government to apply a bias or an agenda. as much as the government wants to do what it wants to do, it is there because it cares and it wa
, the united states of america. that's why when there was destruction in new orleans with katrina, in florida, in joplin, missouri or crop destruction in the midwest, i came along with other colleagues to support those communities. i viewed it as my time to stand with my fellow americans in distress. now it's time for my fellow americans to stand with new jersey. new jersey has been battered but we are not broken. we're stronger and more united in our efforts to work together to recover, rebuild and recommit ourselves to uniting around our common concerns and shared values rather than divided by our differences. that's the lesson we learned, and together we will rebuild and the garden state will bloom once again. with that, mr. president, i yield the floor and observe the absence of a quorum. the presiding officer: the clerk will call the roll. quorum call: quorum call: quorum call: quorum call: the presiding officer: the senator from illinois. mr. durbin: i ask consent the quorum call be suspended. promise without objection. mr. durbin: -- the presiding officer: without objection. mr. durbin
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